Play of Shadows by Crime Novelist Barbara Nickless

Colorado crime novelist Barbara Nickless joins Sarah and Carolyn to discuss her book Play of Shadows.

Barbara is the Wall Street Journal and #1 Amazon Charts bestselling author of the multi-award-winning Sydney Parnell crime novels. Barbara’s new series features forensic semiotician Dr. Evan Wilding—a man whose gift for interpreting the words and symbols left behind by killers has led him to consult on some of the world’s grisliest cases.

Learn more about Barbara Nickless below!

Colorado crime novelist Barbara Nickless guests on the Tea, Tonic & Toxin podcast!

About Play of Shadows

An ancient creature of Greek mythology drives a killer’s unspeakable motives in a pulse-pounding thriller by Barbara Nickless, the Amazon Charts and Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Dark of Night.

On a stormy Chicago night, renowned semiotician Dr. Evan Wilding and his brother, River, who’s back from an archaeological dig, reunite in a mystery. A package addressed to both of them contains a hand-drawn maze, an ancient Cretan coin, and a cryptic greeting: Let the game begin.

The opening move is murder.

In a downtown alley, a man has been found nearly cleaved in two, a symbol drawn on his forehead and a savage rip in his throat. Given the clues, Evan sees a parallel to a fearsome Greek myth. Which means his friend Detective Addie Bisset is on the trail of a legendary flesh-eating monster―one terrifyingly human and tumbling a panicked city toward chaos.

Evan, Addie, and River scramble to discover who’s behind the appalling crimes and decipher the baffling motives. The body count is rising. The endgame is nowhere in sight. And the stakes are nothing less than life and death.

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About Crime Novelist Barbara Nickless

Barbara Nickless is the winner of the Daphne du Maurier Award for Excellence, the Golden Quill Award, Suspense Magazine Best Debut of 2016, Amazon Editors’ Best Mystery, Thriller, and Suspense Novel, and a four-time recipient of the Colorado Authors League Writing Award.

In addition, Barbara has been nominated for the Colorado Book Award five times and won three times.

Barbara lives in Colorado at the foot of the Rocky Mountains, where she loves to hike, cave, snowshoe, and drink single-malt Scotch. Her most recent travels—while conducting research for a novel—involved taking cover from rocket fire and being grilled at military checkpoints.

Barbara joined Sarah and Carolyn in the studio to talk about her latest novel, Play of Shadows.

LONG BIO — Barbara Nickless, Author of Play of Shadows

Barbara Nickless was made in Japan, born in Guam, and made her way through various ports of call to Colorado. There, her mother—an English literature teacher—passed along her own love of reading by starting Barbara on comic books. Which might explain why Barbara grew up to adore  H. Rider Haggard, E.E. “Doc” Smith, and Shakespeare in equal measure.

When she was three, Barbara told her mother that all she wanted was to be a writer. But that wasn’t strictly true. She also wanted to be a sword fighter, an astronaut, to conduct an orchestra, go in search of lost cities and work on Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom. If only she’d known early on that she could do all those things—at least in her imagination—by being a writer. She got there. It just took awhile. But that is the best way to live life—great journeys are as much about the detours as the destination.

In addition to her career as a technical writer and instructional designer, Barbara tried her hand as a raptor rehabilitator, a piano performer, and a sword fighter. She served as the Director of Education for the country’s largest public astronomical observatory and taught Beethoven to kids. It was all great fun. But then a wildfire burned down her family’s home. It was that moment. The one that made her look around and think, “Weren’t there other things I planned to do? Hadn’t I dreamed of writing novels—lots of novels—and traveling the world?”

For Barbara, losing everything also meant she had everything to gain. Her revitalized resolve to be a writer resulted in the Special Agent Sydney Parnell crime series, starting with the award-winning Blood on the Tracks and Dead Stop and the Wall Street Journal bestseller Ambush. Fall of 2021 brought a new series about forensic semiotician Dr. Evan Wilding, who interprets the signs and symbols left by killers. And Barbara says traveling is now in the stars!

After trips to Morocco and South Africa, she plans to springboard off the miles she’s logged hiking the Colorado Rockies and scale Mt. Kilimanjaro before the snow melts. She recently traveled to Israel and the Palestinian Territories.

Stay in the Know About Barbara Nickless!

Barbara Nickless joined Sarah and Carolyn in their makeshift studio for a heartfelt discussion about Play of Shadows. Amazing woman, amazing writer. You’ll love her.

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Awards and Nominations

  • Winner: Daphne du Maurier Award of Excellence for Blood on the Tracks
  • Finalist: Daphne du Maurier Award of Excellence for Dead Stop
  • Suspense Magazine, Best of 2016 for Blood on the Tracks
  • Winner: Colorado Book Award 2017 and 2018. Finalist: Colorado Book Award 2020
    Colorado Humanities.
  • Winner: Colorado Authors’ League Writing Award 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020.
    Colorado Authors’ League.

Interview: Play of Shadows

Mythology & Ancient Origins

Both Play of Shadows & At First Light are built on fascinating ancient symbology (SGH suspects the middle book is also). 

Barbara Nickless, tell us about your background.

Do you have any experience in these things or does it all start from scratch?

Deep Research, ala Dorothy Sayers

Barbara Nickless goes extremely deep into the symbology used in her books, to the point of spelling out hundreds of viking runes, transliterating them, explaining the process, noting variations in meanings. The same for the Cretan hieroglyphs, untranslated scripts, etc. 

Barbara Nickless, can you talk a bit about your research process?

Is there a specific genre associated with this type of writing, outside of a typical police procedural?

Do you have any authors that influence you in this type of writing, or that you look up to?

Dwarfism

One driving portion of the narrative is that the main character, Evan Wilding, is a person with dwarfism.

Barbara Nickless, tell us about your choice to make your semiotician a person with dwarfism?

Much of Evan’s thoughts center on his small stature and how it affects him in the world. How did you research this perspective? Do you review your manuscripts with people with dwarfism? Over the course of the three books, how would you describe your comfort level writing from this perspective?

Recent controversy: Snow White & the 7 Dwarfs live action. Keeping them dwarfs perpetuates stereotypes, making them “magical creatures” takes jobs from the dwarfism community. Is Nickless familiar with this controversy, and what is her take?

Police Procedural

This seems an interesting pairing of a police procedural with a semiotician.

Barbara Nickless, can you talk about how you research police work?

Can you talk about how you research academia?

Can you talk about how you research falconry?

Sense of Place

The south side of Chicago, and Chicago generally, takes a central role. Barbara Nickless, talk about your relationship with Chicago. How do you feel now living in Colorado? Do you plan to write mysteries set in Colorado in the future?

The Evan Wilding Series

What are your plans for this series? Do you have more ideas in the works? How do you come up with your ideas?

Differences in Writing from Book 1 to Book 3

At First Light had a few vignettes into the killer’s thought process that were interesting. Barbara Nickless, can you tell us about that decision?

Voice in book 1 often switched between Addie & Evan, but were not labeled as such. How did it work to have two different internal narrators?

In book 3, we have insight into the thoughts of a variety of people, from the victims, to the killers, to multiple characters beyond Addie & Evan. These were labeled as such on the chapter pages? How did this decision develop?

The way you structured your killer in each book was very different. The third book had no surprise reveal. Was this intentional?

The Serial Psychopath

Both books deal with a serial psychopath obsessed with ancient myth and symbolism. Why the serial psychopath? What is the attraction to that type of character?

Both books, especially the 3rd, touch on how a psychopath develops. What role does that play for you?

Play of Shadows Themes Around Family

Brothers – Eddie & Billy, Evan & River, Lowell & Peter – Tell us more about what you were working with on these brother relationships.

Fathers – The decisions of the fathers for each of these brother pairs are very interesting, tell us more about what you were working with for these fathers. Billy’s father turns him in before he dies (murdered), but likely seems involved.

Evan’s father is such a turd. Compare the relative merits of an enabling father vs an absent one?

Single moms of boys – Jake & Colby – victims who weren’t searched for, were sons of single moms.

Barbara Nickless, are father figures playing a damaging role, and mother figures playing an impotent on?

Even would like to become a father one day, and deeply enjoys his time with children – is this a type of redemption or just happenstance?

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